Ghosts in the Closet
Podcast
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The Project:
Synopsis:
Gay people are everywhere. They’re in your closets, in your podcasts, and if you’re anything like us, in your mirrors.
One place they’re not? Your history books- but they should be. History is filled with queer figures that are often misunderstood, misrepresented and ignored, even if their lives and legacies were remarkable. Join hosts Mary Rodgers and Ailey Yamamoto as they explore forgotten queer history, discuss today’s queer issues, and uncover the ghosts in the closet.
Why me, and why this story?
I was the co-producer, researcher, writer, and cohost of Ghosts in the Closet. This show was produced alongside my friend and classmate Mary Rodgers, who co-produced, co-hosted, and edited the show.
This show was born out of Mary and I’s reflections about the lack of queer people in our history education growing up. Queer people have always existed. So why did we never learn about them? And would learning about them have made growing up queer easier?
Ghosts in the Closet tells the stories of historical figures whose queerness was ignored or erased from the history books. From Frédéric Chopin to the Suffragettes, we dive into the lives of queer people from past generations- their accomplishments, tragedies, romances, and oftentimes, the ways in which they changed the world. We explore their legacies from a modern lens to better understand our own place in the world as queer women.
It was also important to us that we approached this topic in a fun, engaging way. Rather than a simple history lesson, we wanted to create a show that taught listeners about unexpected queer history, immersed them in a story, and made them laugh.
As the researcher and scriptwriter, balancing the educational and entertainment aspects of the show was a unique writing challenge. I also took great care to make sure that we were doing justice to the historical figures we covered and choosing subjects from a diverse range of backgrounds and areas of the queer community. Overall, Ghosts in the Closet was an invaluable lesson in documentary writing, balancing tones, and telling true stories with truth, humour, and heart.
The Process:
Take a behind-the-scenes look into how we make Ghosts in the Closet.

A sample from our initial brainstorm about which historical figures we could cover.

An image of the edit of our podcast opening theme.

A sample showing the writing process behind the script, and a few notes that I put in for Mary and I's benefit during recording. We would often edit the script on the day of the recording to adapt to the flow of the conversation.

A sample from our initial brainstorm about which historical figures we could cover.
The Results:
Ghosts in the Closet in the real world!

The cover tile for the podcast. Designed by Mary Rodgers.

The banner image for the podcast. Designed by Mary Rodgers.

Mary and I accepting the award for "Best SpiritLive Show."

The cover tile for the podcast. Designed by Mary Rodgers.
Credits:
This podcast was co-produced, edited, and designed by Mary Rodgers. Music was sourced from DeWolfe Music. Sound effects were sourced from WeStar Music. This is a production of Toronto Metropolitan University’s SpiritLive Radio.